The Brilliant Gun Confiscation Trap

It is so simple and will be so effective it is simply nuts! I am referring to the trap that is being carefully laid by liberals to confiscate the guns of a significant number of law abiding Americans. It would be crazy to try and push their full agenda at once, so they do what liberals are much better at doing than conservatives: they will take it one step at a time and slowly tighten the noose.

Here’s how it will work: it seems to be common sense that no one wants the mentally ill to have access to firearms. After all, the shooters from Columbine to Aurora to Sandy Hook were mentally ill (at least judging by the fruit of their actions). Most of us would probably agree that no one wants individuals like that to be armed. Thus lies the rationale to clamp down on background checks and create a national ‘database’ to filter these individuals out.

Any politician who shows the smallest amount of hesitation to such a common sense plan will be immediately crucified in the media and will be shouted down so loud that any concerns they might have will not be able to be heard. So, the bill for a mental health ‘check’ will be passed for all firearm purchases. In conjunction, there will be an allowance for guns to be ‘secured’ (read confiscated) for those already possessing them and deemed ‘mentally ill.’

Now for the bait and switch. Who decides who is mentally ill? Your and my definition likely differs from those who are eyeing this as the path to confiscation. Once there is a legal path to any type of confiscation, such as outlined above, the flood gates will open. While it likely starts with those taking prescription medications with known psychotic side effects, it will then expand to almost all that are on medications for psychological reasons, including depression (even seasonal SAD). A small segment of the gun owning population will lose their firearms as they are demonized by the media for objecting to such actions.

Why would it stop there? It will then be time to consider all who see a psychologist as unfit for owning firearms. Once again it is another relatively small population segment that will not be able to fight back the overwhelming force of DHS, ATF, or whatever is the chosen acronym (heck even the IRS is heavily armed these days). As a result, many will no longer get the counseling or other mental health services they need for fear of their firearms being taken away. Spun carefully by the media, these confiscations will seem not only logical, but they will make it seem as though it is irresponsible to handle the situation any other way.

But it won’t stop there. If you thought the Saudi ‘person of interest’ from the Boston Marathon bombing was deported way too fast, you can be classified as a profiling bigot. There must be something wrong with you mentally. Off with your guns!

If you think abortion is wrong you are now considered anti-woman and will need to check in your guns with the government (though I suspect if your name is Kermit Gosnell you may get to keep your scissors).

What if you don’t support ‘marriage equally’ and realize it will lead to the normalization of legal polygamy and even bestiality? You are clearly hate-filled and mentally ill. Your firearms will need to go to big sister for safe keeping!

What if you are a Bible believing Christian? Just for that you lose you guns since you are obviously deranged in the eyes of those classifying mental illness.

Each group disarmed will make the next group’s disarming progressively easier even though the accusations will become more and more preposterous. That is how it works. They will have full media cover for each ‘common sense’ gun grab and history shows that people generally let tyranny slide until it impacts them personally. And then only after the pain becomes too great. By then it will be too late.

It starts by making a law that allows the taking the firearms of the ones generally dismissed as ‘mentally ill’ since no one can defend not supporting such a plan. However once that is legal, YOU will be branded as ‘mentally ill’ in some form or fashion. Call me crazy for suggesting such a scenario. I am sure the government gun grabbers already do.

  • spdr134

    Too many people think it is ok to take other peoples money. These same people believe it is ok to take other peoples rights while theirs are at the same time being eroded without their knowledge.

    • vietnamvet1971

      It is simple “We the People” are Slaves to the Big, Bad, Behemoth, Bloated, Bankrupt Gimme-mint. They TAX us to Death, we can not do any thing unless they approve or know about it.SLOWLY taking our Rights away until one day we wake up and it is OVER they have us. The USA is going down FALLING under the EVIL of the Evil Leaders that are destroying the USA

    • So the REPUBLICANS running in 2014 need to start boldly calling the libs COMMUNIST. They nerd to be the party of FREEDOM FIGHTERS. With 90 MILLION PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED they need to campaign that they aren’t interested in taking their Food Stamps or benefits. They are interested in putting America back to work. They have to working you can make more money then the few hundred $$$ the governments giving you for Food stamps.

      • CapeConservative

        It has been proven time and again that a STRONG CONSERVATIVE stance wins…yet we continue to see those who wish to appease the independents and try to stand on shifting values…IT NEVER WORKS!

        Example #1 – SCOTT WALKER
        Example #2 – John McCain / Mitt Romney

      • ltfbhh

        Unfortunately, the Republican Party is no longer conservative. There are conservative members, but the party leadership isn’t much better than the Dems. They also have shown they don’t have the balls to stand up to the socialists.

  • Ronnie Lee

    I would add that part of the scheme is to indoctrinate our school kids to the “evils” of firearms or other defensive weapons ownership so that they will not offer any resistance to confiscation in a few years. As example, just look at the numerous ridiculous school suspensions of late, such as those for simply eating a pastry into the shape of a gun, or wearing T-shirts with NRA logos on them. Also, check out the latest story, found in today’s Restoring Liberty issue, about the Chicago teacher who was suspended for possessing dangerous weapon like common, useful hand tools (like pliers) which he used to teach a class on “tools” to second graders. These school administrators are the “useful idiots”of our time.

    • Yes. We need to start having parent expose these schools and demand they stop these programs. WE ARE STILL IN THE MAJORITY!

    • jdelaney3

      Yup. The indoctrination of our kids could be the nail in the Republic’s coffin. Parents MUST be engaged. Home-school if possible.

  • stevenlehar

    The difference between socialists / communists and progressives is that the former admit their ultimate objective, the latter insist they only want one small step in that direction … for now, we’ll demand the next step when we get the first one.

  • trp878

    As I’ve have always stated No concession on any gun regulation. Give them and inch and they’ll take a mile.

  • bash126

    This will happen faster than the story reads. Who do you think Obama will appoint to oversee the mental panel? Lib professors and docs.

    • He had 16, 000 new IRS AGENTS out their to declare your are mentally ill.

  • 1_Eddie_1

    No more gun laws. We have more than sensible laws already on the books. What we have is a failure of enforcing the existing laws. Who cares what the the gun grabbers claim. Put the traitors on trial for treason when they open their mouth’s. We have the power, we are the government.

    “Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the BIRTHRIGHT of an American….The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” – Tench Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788

    “As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attemp to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” in “Remarks on the First Pard of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution,” under the pseudonym “A Pennsylvanian” in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789

    Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts: “What, sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.” Rep. of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress at 750 (August 17, 1789)

    • We have to get patriots to go into schools & expose their communist programs. They want immigration then we need to expose their communist intent to the illegals that are coming in. Start turning them around. Many of them are against gays, against destroying religion. They are family orientated.

  • TexRancher

    What have We, The People been saying? Obama and his minions want total control of this country and its citizens. Think Immigration is for the good of anybody, but them? Think again. It’s all about control and one party ruling!

  • William

    “We Must Brainwash People Against Guns” -Eric Holder 1995

  • Tearlach61

    Not only that, the background check bill would have recorded onto a Federal Form 4473 EVERY gun transaction: de facto gun registration. Once that information exists on paper all that would remain would be for the government to order that all 4473 be turned in.

    This recently defeated bill was very dangerous. Those polls supposedly showing 90% support for this ‘common sense’ measure didn’t ask the right question. The real question was: Do you support the creation of a gun registry by stealth to support eventual gun confiscation? That’s the real question.

  • Holder and the leftist liberal communist also said we must treat law abiding citizens that have & support guns need to be treated like we did ti smokers. If you are seen at a tea party rally no gun permit. When are we going to yell all this from our roof tops.
    The Republicans running in 2014 need to expose these things while running and they need to start calling the liberal democrats THE COMMUNIST PARTY TAKING YOUR FREEDOM.

    • jdelaney3

      I totally agree. Sadly, the spineless GOP leadership has been co-opted by the Progressives and political careerists. We’re on our own, gang. Plain and simple. Secession anyone?

  • Pionier

    The mental illness problem is the slippery slope. How many wives have had post partum depression? Kids with ADHD? All of these could be identified as prohibited persons and have guns confiscated; not only from them, but all in their household. Are you ready to move out to keep your firearms?

    • CapeConservative

      And how many people who might want to seek counseling will no longer consider it for fear of being tagged???

  • jdelaney3

    Yes, the Progressives are masters at incremental oppression. However, I don’t honestly believe they would get away with an overly expansive definition of “mental illness” to justify wholescale confiscation. Oh, they’re good at what they do, utterly amoral, relentless and without shame, but taking away a person’s gun because s/he’s anti gay marriage, abortion, bestiality, etc. is a stretch. A big stretch. So long as We the People keep our wits about us and are as relentless in our defense of liberty as Progressives are in their advancement of gun control and oppression, there will be skirmishes, yes, but we will prevail. I have to believe that. Otherwise, let’s get to secession now. Why wait?

    • Poppo

      And 10 years ago, blatant homosexual behavior and gay marriage were unthinkable. I can remember when we actually prayed at school and said the pledge of allegiance.

      • jdelaney3

        I don’t remember it that way at all. Maybe in the 50’s, but 10 years ago? And, by the way, we didn’t pray in public schools in the 50’s either, and I attended a VERY conservative school district. So, I think your timeline is way off.

        • Vince3

          it isn’t as long ago as you may think. I graduated in 1973 and I distinctly remember reciting the Lords Prayer, and the Pledge of Allegiance every morning while in grade school. We also did A bomb drills.

    • cactusbob

      What may now look “like a stretch” may be considered normal or at least acceptable in a few years. Call it morality creep or any other name, look where we are at compared to what was expected several years ago.

    • I agree with you 100%. The issue with those Americans on “the right” is that we win a battle and then claim victory, pack up, and go about our lives. Progressives on the other hand have been far more patient, and work incrementally over time. Whether they “win” or not, they never quit their agenda, on whatever issue that may be. They regroup, and re-attack….or change course and utilize another avenue of attack, be it the courts, executive order, or the 4th branch of government (the bureaucracy). But they never quit.

      They have successfully infiltrated and dominate in academia, indoctrinating our children K-12, and especially in the secondary education levels. They have taken over entertainment and other media indoctrinating the masses. And most important, and this is key…they have successfully inched the goal posts or definition of what a “moderate” is to the left over the decades to the point that everyday, patriotic Americans are now labeled extremists if they speak out against the encroaching totalitarian State.

  • CincinnatiRIck

    Why were the slaves forbidden to have guns? Same reason they were forbidden to learn how to read and write.

  • hmmathis

    Just finished Glenn Beck’s book, “Agenda 21”. The sheeple who were incarcerated in camps by “The Authorities” lost their freedom little by little until their property could be taken from them by force and they could be herded into camps. At that point anyone who objected was shot.

  • If you folks are not yet putting together and training with your 3- to 5-man cells, you’re way behind the curve. Politics and appeals to the Constitution will do no good in dealing with these thugs. All they understand is force. Do you understand that?

    • Tea Pary Terrorists

      Congratulations on not being able to keep your mouth shut for five minutes. Jesus, you know you’re going to be on “the list” now, right?

      • I think this guy is a shill posting this purposely to make the rest of us look nuts.

  • What is your defintion of “law abiding” and have you considered how that may be another avenue you are unknowingly opening?

  • Delores109

    Let’s do a study. Obama and all members of his Administration, and anyone in the Senate or House who is a Democrat will be a part of our study. We will have mental health “checks” on all of them. I am willing to conduct the study myself, since I know so much about their backgrounds.
    We will, of course, ask each if they own any type of gun, even one for skeet shooting. Also, we will ask if they have security protection and why? We will then bring in psychiatrists for further evaluation.
    We will then proceed to the mainstream media for the same mental health “checks”, and we will have them provide us with informationn about their guns and security protection. Another group of psychiatrists will do their thing. All participants of both studies will be given MRI’s of their brains to see if all is working properly. A final report will be published.
    Delores Smith
    [email protected]

  • gypsies,jews,mentally ill-in reality,anyone not in agreement with totalitarian
    policy,where,have heard this before ?,how long until the purges,and modified “night of the long knives”,resurfaces,for the better good ?

  • cdawg

    Joe overlooks the more obvious and likely threat: arbitrary and
    capricious bureaucrats. It is probably because I have a common name,
    but I’ve already once found myself on a TSA no fly list. And more
    than a couple times in my life routine background checks have turned
    up nasty stuff done by someone with the same name as mine getting
    hung on me with remarkable, irremovable stickiness. Government can’t
    be trusted to do anything except to fuck things up. Who needs that
    between our rights and us?

  • Deb89919413

    This is right on target.

  • I guess no one has the spine to ask why Liberals want the mentally ill, one gun purchase away from a mass killing, walking the streets in the first place?

  • Poppo

    They are not fools. They do not put the frog in water that is already hot.

  • anyall

    This has already happened to me! i am very level headed and reasonable. however because something terrible happened to my child i went and talked to a counselor about what happened to my baby, they committed me, get this, and Lord as my witness this is true, committed me for, Not making enough Eye Contact, for Not Rescheduling an Appointment and for Refusing to Take Medication that they kept trying to get me to take and I only went there 4 maybe 6 times at the most. Because I was sad over what happened to my child they wanted me to take drugs and I dont need and I dont want to take drugs and because of that it was held against me. Not Making Enough Eye Contact??? Not Rescheduling an Appointment??? Now i am not allowed to own a firearm of any kind because of these ridicules reasons!? Can anyone believe this!? I cannot believe this actually happened to me. It is so absurd that i dont think anyone will believe me.

    Its also interesting because at one appointment the counselor and i had a discussion about guns, and the counselor told me that guns are so dangerous and that they need to be made illegal; I disagreed with this person and then all of this happened to me. I just cant believe it. We Are All In A Lot of Trouble! Im proof.

    God Bless.

    • cactusbob

      Felons aren’t allowed to own firearms either, but it seems to be little problem for them. Your story is a good warning about how laws can be worded. Have you communicated with any legal advocacy groups? Similar situations have been overturned.


  • It is strange but for most people who want to take away the rights of the 2nd ammendment don’t want or believe that their beloved right(s) won’t or can’t be taken away.

  • You folks are overthinking this. There will only be one test. “You want to own a gun? That’s crazy.”

  • Ceefour

    And what about all those police who have taken meds,prescribed by their doctor, that are on the “take our guns list” and there are many many who have because of the job stress. This is going to get really intersting aint it????

  • The answer is simple: Follow current law, which only restricts those who have been civilly committed, with due process of law. If the mental health community does it’s job, the truly dangerous people will be committed.

    Additionally any law that restricts gun rights without die process is clearly unconstitutional.

  • Wow! I guess police and other law enforcement will have to be excluded or they will also be disarmed.

    • I actually would demand this. LEOs are people too. They have a stressful job and a high suicide rate, and have their bad apples…just like anything else. So what makes these people more special? So why should their families be afforded the safety of having a firearm for home defense? I am just playing the devils advocate, and not anti-LEO but asking the question.

      If the citizenry is disarmed, then I believe that the police and LEOs at all levels (local through Federal), should have to place their duty weapon in an arms room at the end of the duty day. Also, bureaucrat police and LEOs similarly do not “need” a firearm at all.

      Look at Boston. The police were more heavily armed and equipped than I am my men were in Iraq and Afghanistan…all for two suspects with one hand gun and fired hundreds of bullets at them endangering civilians and property. The militarization of our police forces with true “weapons of war”, armored vehicles, and drones needs to stop!

  • I guess my post yesterday did not make it through moderation because I provided an outside link to back up my claim…and thats fair, the filter probably picked it up as spam. This wont be as thorough or long.

    Mr Miller, you surprisingly left out one key group the gun grabbers and Progressives are actively attacking. VETERANS. Thats right, they are going after veterans. The VA has gotten a policy letter to begin confiscating or placing on the “no buy” list a group of veterans. At this time, it is narrowly defined, and limited to those deemed “incompetent” (which a VA bureaucrat can make that determination).

    But how long until that is expanded to all veterans with a disability claim, or seeking treatment for PTSD or other “mental heath” concerns? This is one reason I refused my PTSD rating, and I guarantee you that these decisions are going to force veterans to not seek help.

  • if yu think same sex marriage will lead to poligamy and bestiality they there is something wrong with you, you are a retard

  • AusterityDebunked

    No one’s trying to disarm you, you crazy fucks

    • Someone isnt paying attention to the rhetoric coming from their heroes Feinstein, Schumer, ect. Nor that of the lobbying groups they most likely support.

    • wishonastar

      @ Austerity With that type of responce, it is someone like you that we need to worry about! You got anger problems or just an ignorant idiot with his head stuck up his digestive track so far it is in need of oxygen?

  • Let’s not forget that they have already decided that ex-military suffer from PTSD and are mentally incapable of responsible gun ownership… Thereby they have another group classified as mentally ill.. Military is ok to keep their sorry asses safe but once a civilian again they turn on them and classify them as mentally ill..

  • This is a very accurate and true article that is a good read….until you make an off hand joke about Kermit Gosnell. You may find the murder of just delivered babies funny, however, most people don’t.

  • bobbie

    Since Psychiatry added children throwing temper tantrums to the list of Mental illness this year…this is not far off….

  • And GOA again pushes the left side of politics farther away by linking a story comparing homosexuals and poly to beastality, and hinting of some mad conspiracy to destroy America. Those on the Left and Right are both destroying America by dividing freedom into pieces, and attacking those freedoms they don’t like. Neither of us want shira law in America. Stop trying to put your version of it in place.

    • I should add, the Left is, in fact, trying to confiscate weapons. That is their utopia plan, and many on the Left have said so multiple times. They also use biggitory coming from the Right to scare people away from gun rights. And no, “destroying the family” by letting people do what they choose in their sex life is not part of that plan.

  • BradenLynch

    It boils down to if someone is considered way too dangerous to have a firearm, then why in the hell are they walking the streets?

    If they need to be permanently barred from owning firearms they should be in prison or a mental institution.

    They don’t want that though. They need a regular infusion of massacres and violent criminals to justify more laws and control over us instead of dealing with the small minority of problematic individuals.

    So, this is a Trojan Horse or stealth assault on firearms by gradually increasing the list of prohibited persons. LEOs will be excluded of course (can’t have the state disarmed, too).

    As some have noted, it rings so close to Nazi Germany that I cringe.

  • longun45

    Time to define some terms and to let em be altered. WE also need to restore our system of mental health facilities to the 1960s model.

  • CountryBoy

    That seems about right…. since LIBERALISM is a Mental Disorder…

  • CountryBoy

    The following was by Pastor Martin Niemoller
    First They came —
    First they came for the communists,
    and I did not speak out –
    because I was not a communist.
    Then they came for the socialists,
    and I did not speak out –
    because I was not a socialist.
    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I did not speak out –
    because I was not a trade unionist.
    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I did not speak out –
    because I was not a Jew.
    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak out for me.